i don't own one of these and i haven't heard one before im actually new to the car audio so this is my first set up but after reviewing all the good subs rf t2's jbl gti kicker l7's mtx 9500's orion hcca's so on iv come to the point where...every site has the same thing on it..jl w7s ares are better than the w7s this and that if everyone's comparing there subs to jl w7's why not buy jl w7's? i mean com-on you can never find a really good deal on these they must be worth there cost but yea this is the best deal iv seen and iv been to ebay 2 so ill buy from here =) very good prices