I previously owned some pioneers and I think the tweeters on the pioneers sounded better. The treble on the focals are not very loud and the midbass treble is kinda harsh and hurts my ears so I turn down the midbass. The 2 good things I have to say is that they don't distort and the bass is very good from them. If you are buying this brand for midbass components then I would say that would be a way better choice. For the audiophile like me these are not worth the money and I think you can get way better for cheaper. They sound really good for rap songs but for rock its terrible. Thats why I'm buying tweeters separate so they will sound better.