Customer Ratings & Reviews

Good Product

Used this package on my Mazda 6 i Sport and it covered the length of the car fine. Had scrap to splice off onto multiple amps.

Comes with everything you need at a great price!

I ordered this kit for my two 12" mtx subs and a one channel amp and it came with all of the wiring necessary to gets my subs bumping

good product

Really stops the rattling that comes from having the punch from the kiker speakers i have installed in the doors of my car.

Easy to use and apply

I used this product in my rear component speakers (Alpines) for the mid-range woofers in the doors to shield against vibration and they do a good job and the speakers sound great for it!

Cache CSM

These came in a package deal from Sonic
with JBL GTO series speakers one of the decisions why I bought the GTO speakers, easy to use. Currently installing the sound system but having used similar products before these will make a good speaker sound better.

Great product

Worked good, stopped the rattling. Deeper bass.

good stuff!

I bought this in a combo package that Sonic put together with a set of hifonics components, the zxi65c. i liked it, i havent heard any rattling from my speakers. works well, i recommend it.

Sounds Great!

I installed the Dead Shield Sound Dampening Material under all 4 of the speakers I replaced in my truck and the stereo system sounds great, better than I expected.

Not Bad for $40

this is running Mono bridged pushing an NVX 10" in a 1 cu ft. sealed box with Infinity Kappas, 6.5's on all 4 doors with the 2700 model Dual. Nice budget build. Solid low end amps.Not going to win any competition, but $70, 2 amps, decent sound, You can't go wrong

By Anonymous on August 19, 2019 Verified purchase

Good Value

Great bang for the buck amp...be careful you can over-torque the screws but other than that it does its job.

As for Sonic Electronix - doubled boxed and shipped promptly, the item arrived sooner than expected.

By James on February 19, 2020 Verified purchase

Good buy for the price

I have no complaints with this cheap amp. It did the job till I could afford a nicer one. The option of high and low inputs as well as running 2 or 4 speakers off of just 2 inputs is great! My higher end amp I replaced it with didn’t have that option. This amp never shut down when ran for hours. Can’t go wrong for the price. It is plenty powerful to run quality speakers.

By Robb on January 6, 2020 Verified purchase

Great amp

I definitely recommend this amp it's a great price for what it's worth

By Allen on February 14, 2020 Verified purchase

Great company , received my stuff to day

It was all there and no damage Great company Will certainly deal with them again thanks Sonic Electronix.

By Anonymous on December 12, 2019 Verified purchase

Awesome value

Purchased two to power 6 door speakers and 1 subwoofer. Is doing a great job, would recommend.

By Kevin on July 22, 2019 Verified purchase

Rockford FTW

had these set up on a bench to make sure they worked well before they go in my truck and WOW i am again impressed with Rockford's performance!

Awesome Speakers!

This speakers fit nearly perfect in my 99 VW Passat. Only issue I ran into is that they were slightly over-sized. The lows, mids, and highs were clear! They even made my rear view mirror shake and my doors rattle a little.

If you want quality sound this is it.

This is a great looking speaker that will deliver clear pristine sound in such a wide range. I am still amazed. They were more than i expected.
And they fitted right in the door of my 99 chevy truck with no mods. Sound is awesome, head unit is a JVC KDR 600.

Great Value

I shopped around but couldn't beat the deal I got from Sonic Electronix on this Raptor cable set for connecting my subwoofer.

not sure bout them

I bought these speakers 6 months ago and there ok, even thou my front highs stop working but the back are still great so am not sure about them.

One Happy Customer

After purchase of Rockford Fosgate P1653 speakers from Sonic Electronix I am tremendously pleased with the quality of service they have shown me and tremendously happy with the quality of the product I purchased. However I am disappointed with some of the reviews I read on line before my purchase that almost caused me to be swayed from purchasing this product.
The reviews have mentioned a lack of BASS which in my opinion is the furthermost thing from the truth. These speakers are awesome and the BASS is adequate if not exceeds the expectations in delivery of sound from that size of speaker. Also the reviews stated it would not fit my 2006 GMC Sierra. That too is a lie because they fit great. Nonetheless despite my gripes with other people’s reviews I am glad I did the research myself and decided to buy this great product. I highly recommend both the product and the company I purchased it from which is SONIC Electronix. Thank you for the opportunity to express my thoughts on this great product.

Best Bang for the buck! @54

Bought 2 pairs for my 05 Sequoia doors using Alpine CDA105 & KTP 445 amp, EXcellent combo!!!

Awesome Speaker

These speakers do fit in the stock speaker location in the doors of my 2001 S10 w/ zero problems. Only thing i had to do was drill a few new holes. Overall these speakers sound great and give off a good amount of bass when turned up. I'm very happy with these speakers.

Great performance!

Good value for price. Quality.

Great product

I used this kit for one Alpine Type R 12 with an MRP-M500 amp and it works perfectly! I don't know if it's true 8 gauge, but I'm sure it's not more than 10 gauge. Been using it for a month and haven't had any problems.

Very Surprised and Satisfied

I'll readily admit that i was a bit worried and apprehensive about getting these speakers. This is all because i never owned Rockford Fosgate products and because i thought that all the rave reviews for these speakers were just "hype". Well let me be the one to tell you that these speakers definitely deserve all the great reviews and more! The price for these speakers are great due to these speakers being more than their worth. The bass is very good matched with my Pioneer HU and the highs are crisp. Keep in mind that i have no amp and running these speakers strictly off of the headunit. Sonic Electronix is also a good online retailer with their prices and shipping. All my items were packaged very nice without anything missing. When my package arrived i immediately went to have the speakers installed to my rear deck and what a difference! The one con that i have though is that if i did install the speakers myself, then they would be a bit tricky but nothing major. I'm so excited about these speakers that i now want some components to replace my stock speakers in the front. I'll definitely be sure to not only get Rockford speakers but i will also order them from Sonic Electronix as well.

Great Value at $54 for 60 RMS

Made my own MDF brackets for 05 Sequoia since the cone is too big but they sounds awesome rating 10/10, no rattles or distortions. Thank you Sonic, I am buying more :)

Wife loves them

These were installed along with another pair of Rockford Fosgates in my wifes Prius. Fantastic speakers and she hates to exit her car now.

Great Deal

My first pair of RF Punch but not my last. Was skeptical cause of the price but these are as good as the Pioneer D series I've had. Very clear and with tremendous bass. Admittedly I'm too old to care much for exaggerated bass, but these have plenty to compliment all my music. Just running these off a Pioneer head unit but will be hooking up an amp soon to really bring out what they're capable of. FYI, the adapter plate does not work with Ford P/U 6x8 applications. Had to custom install but worth it.

Awesome!!!

Installed four of these in my 2007 JK Wrangler 2dr and these are amazing. I installed the first two in the sound bar powered by the stock head unit and there was not much improvement. I then replaced the OEM deck with a Kenwood that the sound bar came alive. I like them so much I just replaced the two dash speakers with these Punch. The sound is amazing, loud with no distortion, and surprisingly good bass response. I would put these in again in a second!

Loud and Precise

Installed these in the rear Speakers. OMG these babies bang!.. So clean and love em! Made a huge difference from my stock (obvi). Highly Recommend!~

Super Value!

I purchased 2 pair as drop in units untill i do a complete upgrade. Purchased these purely on price and current amp power available. Great, still works like new and sounds like new. Super great value for the price.. Just wish they were not made in China and still made in USA like old Punch series.. Damn the economy.

Great speakers

As always with Rockford these are great speakers. Great high and mid speakers. Not really suppose to use for bass but they will beat a little.

Great Product

Very good quality, fast shipping, great price. Thanks a bunch.

Good Speaker, Great price.

Good speaker at a great price. Decent base, decent high's. The mid range is a bit lacking. If you're looking for strong bass you still need the sub, but you can't go wrong for the price of these. No regrets whatsoever.
It's not the top of the line, but it does not have the top of the line
price either. Buy it.

Word WOW is an underststement

Most people say don't expect a lot of base from these speakers. Not true, they have tremendous base and can handle everything my stereo can give them.
After I installed them in my 2006 GMC Sierra my description is WOW and that in my opinion is an understatement. So if you are looking for a great sounding speaker that lives up to its Fosgate name then don't hesitate and buy it. However first check all measurements yourself and be sure that they will fit. Because of that misleading information I almost did not buy them. However I am tremendously glad I did. Great product, fantastic price, what more can I say... Just buy them. You’ll be glad you did.

Fosgate P1653

Sorry for the delay in getting to this but I purchase these speaker sometime back and they are still kicking strong as ever. I previously had components installed in rear and doors but I am not sure if the quality or weather made them bite. I self installed the Fosgate P1653 in the door of a 96 Impala ( custom fit ). The kit that ships with the Fosgate P1653 still was able to be used and for the rear mounting. I took my front door panels off the other day for repairs and was amazed to see how good they still looked. Every once in a while I will turn down the L712 subs to listen to the subs and ride highs all day. They handle mid range well and the tweeters are crisp and clear like they are components. I definitely recommend the Fosgate P1653.

good

used them to replace stock speakers. they where good but i wasn't overly impressed.

great speakers

These are great sounding speakers, they have big magnets for clear sound. I put these in my jimmy and there's no distortion or anything just great bass and clear sound. Would definitely recommend these. Plus i got these for literally half the price i would have paid at best buy.

Rockford

These have a good sound but they seem to need more power to run. I have these in the front doors of a crew cab with polk audios in the back doors, the highs are better but the bass was a little lacking with the power level of an aftermarket stereo. I finally put in a sub and amp, with this they really rock and seem to handle the power fine. If i have another polk fail i would replace with this speaker, i listen to mostly classic rock with this setup

Great Speakers for the price

If the enclosure on your vehicle did not create bass with the stock speakers, you can pretty much bet these won't help either. The highs and mids are very high quality though. You won't regret if you are replacing stock speakers, but my WARNING is just don't expect a lot of bass. There is a rockford fosgate with a deeper depth that I have bought that really hit, but the stock speakers had good bass too.

Very nice speakers!

I have these speakers in a 97' S10. I don't have them hooked up to an amp, but these speakers still rock! They have a good amount of bass, and their mids and highs are pretty good! I have them in the doors, and the 4 x 6's punches in the dash. Very good setup. Hopefully going to amp them soon!

wow surprenant!

I purchased these speakers and installed them on the back panel of my Aveo, while keeping my factory speakers in the doors. When I raise the volume, I only hear the Rockford Fosgate. Real quality and a very good sound - I recommend them to everyone.

Amazing

These speakers are just amazing. Bought just one pair for the front doors on my Matrix and they are impressive. Honestly unless you want to make a lot of noise i don't see the need for a sub. Even do at first i didn't think about buying a set for the rear doors these speakers sound so good that i'm going to put a pair on the rear and then decide on the sub. I believe you will be very pleased with this product. Wont rate the durability since just got the install today.

great speaker

this is a great speaker love the way it sounds in my bronco powered by an alpine headunit an couldn't be happier

did require to drill some holes but nothing to hard

Best RF Deal Out There!

I have 4 of these in my 2000 tahoe powered by a Hifonics ZXi 4410. After a few songs on about 3/4 power your ears ring for a good couple hours. Crisp sounding highs, moderate midbase. louder then my friends infinities that he payed double the price for! had to shave the mounting ring to get them to fit in the front doors.

amazing system

I like this system it was cheap and great quality great service and helping on the phone youd be a fool to to buy from here.

Amazing sound!

I purchased 4 of these speakers to replace 4 kicker speakers in my car and it sounds unbelievably amazing. I have never been in another car that sounds as good as mine till this day, besides mine now. Get these and youll see exactly what im talking about. It's truly amazing, i cant get over the fidelity these speakers have in them.

Wow...what a wiring kit!

Included in a bundle, you'd expect it to be crap quality. Everything, from the fuse to the wires to the rca's, very nicely done. No complaints at all. Provides clean power to the amp without issue!

good product

Had everything I needed and then some for installing a 300 W RMS amp and a sub in the trunk of my 08 Civic. Great kit.

great speakers

I have 4 of these in my car with 2 JL w3 to be installed and they sound amazing. ive had people ask what subs i had with these speakers. I highly recommend these, especially for the price

Rockford Fosgate Punch P1653

These are the best speakers I have ever purchased for an automobile. For the price, the sound can't be beat. And the construction of the speaker and the ease of installation were a real plus! Highly recommended.

Great buy!!

I desired some great quality speakers from Rockford Fosgate and I got exactly what I was hoping for. Great sound quality being directly ran from my Kenwood Headunit at 40 watts rms. I love these speakers!!!

Very Impressed

I installed these today and hooked up to a Pioneer DEH 1350 headunit. The sound is excellent. I played several tracks including Queens 'Invisible Man" The bass was tight and precise, midrange good and highs sweet and crisp, just the same as my Mordaunt Shorts worth mega$. I placed them in the front doors and went to a great deal of effort to mount them with foam sealing between the speaker and the metal door. The effort was well worth it. I would definitely recommend these. I have spent $300 total for a head unit and these speakers and the sound is better than thousand dollar systems, I have previously owned.

Great!

I challenge you to find a better deal than this kit.
For the price it just can't be beat!
If you're looking for competition stuff look elsewhere.
This kit is just for the DIY installer who needs a clean simply install and its more than enough.

Good

For the price can't beat it.

niice

Nice for wire works perfect for my system, JVC kd radio, 1 kenwood kfc, and hitron 1000.1 amp. have left over wire,


VW Jetta MKIII

Rockford Fosgate Punch P1653

great set of speakers to round out with the RF P1652-S set I installed in the front. I did nothing special-just installed them. The sound is amazing-planning on adding an amp & sub to up the performance a notch. Sonic had the best prices I found, and if your looking to add better sound with the possibility of expanding your system later, these are the perfect fit.

Nice Clear sound

They sound great in a variety of music, from country to hard rock. I truly enjoy them and am amazed at their clarity/

Rockford Fosgate Punch P1653 - Truly Punch

Perfect fit. Perfect Sound. Perfect Clarity.

Putting 50 watts each to them. Zero Distortion.

I only wish they had more sizes of this model line, so I could squeeze a few more pairs into the beast.

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!

GREAT Support From Sonic Electronix!!!!

great value for the money

These things rock out!! I am pumping 225 wattseach through them through a Rockford amp. Mids and highs only bass sent to sub. These are clear and they are worth the money. no doubt. all kinds of music sounds good!!

Great Speakers

I recommend this speaker because it sounds fantastic for a 6 1/2 and couldn't be easier to put in if you have any idea what your doing. Great value !

Great Product, Lil bigger for 6.5 after market Spacers

Great Looks,Quality Sound & HD Construction

excellent buy

I recommend this speaker they are awesome.I have 20 of this playing an my 2007 GMC Sierra really loud.

Harder to fit than most

I've own this for 6 month now and I wish I could tell how good they are.

The fact and reality is they are build bigger and stronger in the back than standard 6.5 speaker. So, universal spacer from Metra or other brand wont fit. I wish a special spacer riser adapter came with it.

I only have a few month left on the lease for my car. The next car I get I will have a custom spacer made especially for it. The option I'm looking into is not MDF because that would swell with humidity and water getting in. Rather this new solid plastic plank use for patio or modding the panel with fiber glass. Either way it's going to be expensive. I know squat about fiber glass and I imagine it's going to be hard to carve that plastic with a router bit.

Great Speakers

Great value. Installed these speakers in my Toyhauler trailer. Very impressive sound. So impressed I bought another set for my son's car. Definitely buy again!

The Sound is GREAT!!!

I ordered the P6153's a few months ago they sound great. I ran them off the radio at first they were great as mids. The lows weren't there though that I would have wanted. Now they are amped and EQ'd and they sound awesome. Very clear but can't hit the lows I wish they had. Honestly great buy for the buck.

Great speaker

Put one set in the boat and one in the truck. they sound great

Excellent value

For the price, I doubt I could have done better. They fit like a champ in my 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee. I used them for the rear door speakers. The bass response was better than I expected. Very tight and thumpy. They really rounded out the system and were a bargain at 65.00. Less than half what my local dealer wanted to charge for similar speakers. I bought a pair of RF components for the front and they worked just as well and were a great value as well.

rockford fosgate punch p1653 6 1/2

they sound great and i will get more of them if i ever need a new set and the price was nice also.

Great speaker and price!

Speaker fits and sounds great. Not too many speakers out there that would fit in S10 crew cab, but this works perfectly.

great lil speakers

these speakers are great, put'em in the rear deck and sounded awesome! they pack a nice "punch". have a RF punch component in the front as well, all powered by a eclipse 4 channel amp.

Spectacular

I have own these speakers for over a month now, and let me tell you do they sound super clean. Its a must have speaker. The only con was that I had to make my speaker hole bigger but other than that you have to have them.

More than what was expected!

These were the first speakers I have ever bought for anything. I only went with them because my father, who worked for Sonic Electronix for 12 years as an installer, told me Rockford Fosgates were his favorite brand. I can see why! These speakers are amazing. I replaced my stock door speakers with these. I had plans of replacing the speakers behind my seats with subs, but never mind! These speakers are good enough. I'm just going to replace the 4" speakers behind my seat with some 6x9's and be done. That should be more than enough. It already shakes my little ranger.

Worth the money!

I received the product promptly thanks to Sonic, speakers sounded great really nice highs, good mid and bass. Overall if your looking for a quality set for a great price I would most certainly buy these.

Great Value, Great Sound

Just got these 2 speakers hooked up today to a pioneer avh-p3100dvd and no amp. These are LOUD!!!! I am definitely getting another pair. I cant wait to hear how these sound with a good 4 channel amp. Thanks Sonic

great

I have this kit for my 2 w1's it crimps easy easy strip clean crisp sound no distortion or interference at all love raptor kits!

Decent entry level

For an entry level setup, not a bad wiring set. I did have a few problems with the solderless terminals provided and ended up using some I purchased separately and just recently one of the RCA ends has come apart requiring some fine work to remove the bit from the amplifier.

Quality Sound!

If you like Rockford, then buy these speakers.

Not enough

Why is it that amp wiring kits never come with enough ground wire? Besides that I would not recommend this kit. The wire is good quality but if your like me and want a stable supply of power to your amp then I would get a thicker gauge wire. This came with a package deal I bought and the amp is only 400 watt. This is not enough to keep up with the power requirements of the amp. I've done the big 3 upgrade and cleaned up all my connections between the alt, battery and amplifier and am running a 100 amp alternator and still have issues with my amp. The only thing I have not done yet is replaced the amp power cable with a 4 gauge and I am positive that this will correct the power consumption issue.

Good deal

Will do the job for any amp requiring 8ga. Simple as that.

Great for the price

Had a pair of these in my 02 frontier and was pushing about 60 watts rms to them and they were great. They only produce a little bass so a sub is recommended. Just purchased another pair for my new car.

Good unit

For the price, I have absolutely no regrets.
Plenty of power, and crisp delivery.

read the disclaimer!

From what I can hear from the one speaker I have sorta hooked up to the left rear deck, it sounds fine, but I really can't review it as I should. Turns out I did not read the fine print on the "will these fit your car" page. Yes, they fit in the holes in the doors, but they hit the window so no they don't fit there, which is where I wanted them. I have subsequently tried them on the rear deck, and the hole is big enough, but I would have to abandon the stock covers and use the grilles provided with the speakers, but they don't cover the fabric like the original Honda covers do-not a pretty sight to see bare metal surrounding the speaker.
Moral of the story: do your research and don't trust the "fit your car" specs entirely.

Made my system Complete

These speakers are great speakers for fronts. it has great highs and lows. Was thinking of ordering tweeters but ended up not needing them. these do it all. Great price and product.

Great speaker!!!

You can't get a better speaker for this price. These speakers will last for years.

the best

I bought them 6 mos ago and they r still still standing strong I will buy from you guys again

Good Sound

Overall great product. Good price, Great bass response.

Best Speakers I Have Heard For The Price

I am a car audio fanatic, heard some entry level and even some expensive speakers that sound good, but for the price, these things are AMAZING and meet the standards of your high end speakers...I have 8 of them in my 98 Maxima on a 800 watt fosgate 4 channel and these things are loud and crisp and can even be heard over 145 db of bass. Worth every penny! Buy NOW!!! Rockford fosgate is hands down the best speaker (and amplifier) company!!

Sound Great

I bought 2 pioneer 12in subs and I wanted some door speakers, these are the speakers I found. They may be cheap, but they sound magnificent. The only thing I didn't like was when I tried to install them, my window hit them so I had to make a spacer for them. Other than that I highly recommend these. They sound great and aren't expensive. Eventually I plan to buy to more for me back seat, once I get another amp.

Dont get me started.

WORST SPEAKERS EVER. No bass and the bass you do get rattles like no ones business! Terrible lows but good clean highs.

Great Buy

I would definitely recommend this product to anyone who is looking to replace their door speakers and want good sound. I really like Rockford fosgate and these speakers show how good of a job they do. They come with a tweeter built in which gives it an even better sound, these are good speakers for a good price.

sounds great, good buy.

bought speakers for the door. I had a little trouble getting them to fit properly, but they sound great, great overall speakers.

Good product. Fast shipping.

I have had a pair of these for a few months and they have been a vast improvement over my stock set. I had to do some modifying to get them to fit into my particular vehicle correctly but I have been very happy and satisfied with them.

Great Bang for your Buck

I installed these in my 2007 Tundra it was a difference in night and day. The clarity and crispness is outstanding. Ive had multiple vehicles with multiple speakers in them and this is by far favorite. the old saying is "you get what you pay for" but you are really getting more than what your paying for. I highly recommend anybody that loves great sound and saving money to buy this product.

loud clean crisp highs

sonic has great price and great shipping on these and they sound loud and clean & easy to install

Worth The Money

I put 4 of these speakers in my Dodge Dakota Quad Cab yesterday, replacing the factory Infinity speakers. My seat was thumping, mirrors were shaking, and neighbors were yelling. I am using the factory Infinity deck with no amp. The sound is crisp at both very low and very high volumes. I would pick these speakers again and again.

Not true 8awg

If you only have to power a 200 watt amp or so then its okay but if you have a 500 watt amp i would not recommend this kit... True power ratings not your "peak" ratings either.

Great package

An all inclusive package of what you need to install a subwoofer/amplifier system to your car/ truck.

Main power cord was almost not long enough for my car. I ran the cables from the driver's side in the engine bay, then through the firewall on the passenger side back through the side floor panels to back behind my seats on the drivers side. (I couldn't run the cable through the driver's side firewall due to the fact that I didn't want to drill it to run the cable).

I recommend you find the path you are going to run the cables and make sure it's going to be long enough before you buy your cables.

good speakers

These have a good sound def not the best i have heard by far dont regret buying them but will be buying focal, hertz, or the kappas for next setup.

Great deal

Comes with just about everything you need. BUT, if you are running a 4-channel amp to 4 seperate speakers you will most likely need more speaker wire. Other than that its good and gets the job done with no overheating wires or anything.

Nice Speakers

Can handle the punishment from my amp. Nice and clear.

Great mids and highs

Just installed these speakers today to replace my factory speakers, it was a bit of a hassle but i got it done and it was well worth it. What a big difference in sound, I regret waiting so long to make the change. If you buy these speakers I'm begging you please use a amp to get the full potential. I'm using a jl xd 700/5 amp for power and the mids and highs are clean and very detailed. No regrets. Very satisfied.

NICE KIT

Worked well for a low budget install. Wiring was nice and RCA's were ok too.

EXCELLENT

This package has everything you need, very high quality, and very organized, comes with plenty or components, and I still have some left over.

Decent kit

I am not sure if this is a true 8 gauge kit, but it is not far off. I upgraded to a beefier kit, but this came with lots of speaker and power/ground wire and decent connectors. For the price it is a good kit,and will get you bumping but if you have a lot of money invested in a nice setup just stick with the more expensive wiring.

works good

this is all you need to get your bumps going

great buy

they get very loud with an amp, lots of bass and the highs scream! buy these if you don't want components.

Cheap materials

I got this with a sub amp package from sonic and i didnt really think much about the wiring kit. its just wires right? NO. the installer refused to use these wires because they were so cheap. theres not plastic surrounding the copper than copper wire itself. its dangerous and could catch your car on fire if used. DO NOT BUY.

Good price for a good product!

Very happy of this kit! It is more like 10 gauge but it's enough for my power requirement! Overall great quality!

Works great

Cheap and does what it's supposed to. True 8 guage wire. The little zippered case it comes in is great for storing all my leftover install stuff and fuses in.

best speakers i've had

I've had over 5 kinds of speakers ranging from $25-120 per pair. these are by far the best not because of the price but because they hit so good. perfect for rock and rap. very good lows and highs. good bass response. doesn't distort at high volume.

have 2 10" Kenwood subs, and 4 pair of these in my Nissan 200sx. Cant turn my head unit past volume 15 without my ears ringing. Powered by a 1000w crunch amp, and another Kenwood amp hooked up to cap.